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The Black Occupy Protester --- Missing in Action



As "Person of the Year," Time magazine named "The Protester." The subhead read, "From the Arab Spring to Athens, From Occupy Wall Street to Moscow."

Well, yes, but what about the lack of American black protesters? Good Lord, where is the racial diversity/inclusion/proportional representation?

Back in the day, the tea party's alleged lack of black participants was beyond worrisome to the media. The lack of black faces in the crowd allowed the major media to describe the tea party as racially exclusionary, if not ... racist!

"Some of them in Congress right now with this tea party movement," said Rep. Andre Carson, D-Ind., "would love to see you and me ... hanging on a tree." Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif. said tea partiers can "go straight to hell." A New York Times op-ed described tea partiers as "overwhelmingly white, but even compared to other white Republicans, they had a low regard for immigrants and blacks long before Barack Obama was president, and they still do."

So the formula is set: Lack of blacks plus "overwhelmingly white" equals racism. Right? Not so fast.

This formula does not apply to the Occupy Wall Street movement, which is as white as an Idaho picket fence. A Washington Post opinion piece cites a survey that found "African Americans, who are 12.6 percent of the U.S. population, make up only 1.6 percent of Occupy Wall Street." And blacks are 25 percent of New York City's population. Occupy Wall Street was a home game for them. By contrast, 6 percent of tea party supporters, according to an April 2010 Gallup poll, are black. That's almost four times the number of blacks who make up Occupy Wall Street.

Why so few blacks in the Occupy movement?

A Washington Post opinion piece offered one reason — black resignation: "Perhaps black America's absence is sending a message to the Occupiers: 'We told you so! Nothing will change. We've been here already. It's hopeless.'"

But blacks view the economy differently — and a lot more optimistically — than do whites.

Despite around 16 percent unemployment, as compared to the 8.6 percent national rate, and nearly 50 percent black teenage unemployment, blacks feel better about the economy than do whites. A February 2011 Washington Post survey found that 24 percent of blacks were "very" or "somewhat satisfied" with the economy, compared to 12 percent of whites. A recent NBC poll found that by a lopsided 73 percent to 19 percent, most Americans considered the country on the "wrong track." But not blacks. Forty-nine percent of blacks think the country is "headed in the right direction" versus 38 percent who do not.

Then there's the President Barack Obama factor. For some blacks, joining the Occupy protests would be an admission that Obama has failed to deliver on his promises to make things better, to squash special interests, to diminish the influence of lobbyists, etc. It's not hard for a black Obama lefty (redundancy intentional) to rationalize: "I thought a black president would make a real, actual, touchable difference in my life. He has not. But he's trying. He inherited a mess that those awful Republicans left him. So, he deserves re-election." How else to explain that while 57 percent of Americans disapprove of Obama's handling of the economy, 86 percent of blacks approve?

The real reason for the lack of black participation, or lack of participation by anyone else in the Occupy movement, should be simple: a complete rejection of its sole unifying theme, which seems to be "give me some of what 'they' have."

The real reason to reject the Occupy movement is that complaining about "inequality" without regard to how the haves became the haves is a time-waster. Those in the top earning demographic have some things in common: They are more likely than the non-top-20-percenters to have at least a college degree; are married; work long hours; and did not inherit, marry, steal or win their wealth.

The problem is blacks reject the Occupy movement, but not the party whose values reflect its unifying "victicrat" theme. Yet Democrats and the Occupy movement share a common philosophy. Obama said to the Occupiers, "You're the reason I ran for office."

Both believe in empowering government to address "inequality" by redistributing wealth. Both believe that those who achieve great wealth do so through exploitation, which justifies the claim others make on the money.

The economy of the early '80s saw higher inflation, interest rates and unemployment than during the so-called Great Recession. But unlike Obama, President Ronald Reagan deeply and broadly cut taxes, continued deregulation and slowed down the rate of domestic spending. The result? Black adult and teen unemployment fell dramatically, much faster than it did for white adults and teens.

The real question is not why so few blacks belong to the Occupy movement. The real question is why so many blacks still belong to the Democratic Party.

http://www.JewishWorldReview.com

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http://www.businessinsider.com/what-wall-street-pr otesters-are-so-angry-about-2011-10?op=1

Here's one listening to ol' Joan Baez.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/11/for-joan-baez-another-protest/

Another...

Another...

Another...



http://www.salon.com/2011/11/11/is_occupy_wall_street_too_white/singleton/

Ain't no stupid like racially ignorant stupid.

Bert, I don't think you even know what you're saying most of the time, but that Jewish World Review is worth debunking, just in case anyone actually does read and believe the articles.

but that Jewish World Review is worth debunking, just in case anyone actually does read and believe the articles.>>



the jewish world review has many different contributors..this particular article was written by one of my favorites, a black gentleman by the name of Larry Elder.

your posting of the pictures of a few black protestors debunks nothing.

nice try


here is a list of people who are published by the Jewish World Review..



would you please review the list..

thanks




Arnold Ahlert
Mitch Albom
Jay Ambrose
Michael Barone
Barrywood
Tony Blankley
Lori Borgman
Stratfor Briefing
Washington Calling
Mona Charen
Linda Chavez
Richard Z. Chesnoff
Ann Coulter
Greg Crosby
Alan Douglas
Larry Elder
Suzanne Fields
Frank J. Gaffney
Bernie Goldberg
Jonah Goldberg
Julia Gorin
Jonathan Gurwitz
Paul Greenberg
Argus Hamilton
Victor Davis Hanson
Betsy Hart
Ron Hart
Nat Hentoff
Marybeth Hicks
David Horowitz
Jeff Jacoby
Renee James
Paul Johnson
Jack Kelly
Ed Koch
Ch. Krauthammer
Michael Ledeen
John Leo
David Limbaugh
Kathryn Lopez
Rich Lowry
Michelle Malkin
Jackie Mason
Ann McFeatters
Dale McFeatters
Dana Milbank
Jeanne Moos
Dick Morris
Jim Mullen
Deroy Murdock
Judge A. Napolitano
Bill O'Reilly
Kathleen Parker
Star Parker
Dennis Prager
Wesley Pruden
Tom Purcell
Sharon Randall
Robert Robb
Cokie & Steve Roberts
Heather Robinson
Pat Sajak
Debra J. Saunders
Martin Schram
Culture Shlock
David Shribman
Roger Simon
Michael Smerconish
Thomas Sowell
Ben Stein
Mark Steyn
John Stossel
Cal Thomas
Dan Thomasson
Bob Tyrrell
Ben Wattenberg
Diana West
Dave Weinbaum
George Will
Walter Williams
Byron York
ZeitGeist
Mort Zuckerman


chancellor-

are all the above not worthy of consideration?

If I were a person of color I might think twice about attending an Occupy protest. Why leave home when I can get tear gassed and beaten by the police in the comfort of my own neighborhood?

chancellor must be reading a book...


lets take one by one..





Ch. Krauthammer ...

should Charles not be believed?

your opinion of Charles?

does he need debunking also?

I knew albany was a shithole, but jeez.

i like how you make some of the letters yellow. that is neat.

Thomas Sowell


Thomas Sowell (born June 30, 1930) is an American economist, social theorist, political philosopher, and author. A National Humanities Medal winner, he advocates laissez-faire economics and writes from a conservative and libertarian perspective. He is currently a Rose and Milton Friedman Senior Fellow on Public Policy at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.

Sowell was born in North Carolina, but grew up in Harlem, New York. He dropped out of high school, and served in the United States Marine Corps during the Korean War. He had received a bachelor's degree from Harvard University in 1958 and a master's degree from Columbia University in 1959. In 1968, he earned his doctorate degree in economics from the University of Chicago.

Sowell has served on the faculties of several universities, including Cornell and University of California, Los Angeles, and worked for think tanks such as the Urban Institute. Since 1980 he has worked at the Hoover Institution. He is the author of more than 30 books.



should he be debunked?





George Will ?

Education

Trinity College (B.A., 1962)[1]
University of Oxford (B.A., M.A. (Oxon)
Princeton University (M.A., PhD (1968)

Columnist, journalist, author


George Frederick Will (born May 4, 1941) is an American newspaper columnist, journalist, and author. He is a Pulitzer Prize-winner best known for his conservative commentary on politics. By the mid 1980s the Wall Street Journal reported he was "perhaps the most powerful journalist in America," in a league with Walter Lippmann (1899–1975).[2]


debunked?

take your time

its a long list

why no yellow letters this time? yellow = pretty

Hmmm...I guess no one told Oakland.

>>> By the mid 1980s the Wall Street Journal reported he was "perhaps the most powerful journalist in America," in a league with Walter Lippmann (1899–1975).[2]


i like george will, but that is not flattering to be compared with Lippmann.

i've been told sowell was a hack (even though i like him), so.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M4WqTf4frk

Charles Krauthammer has always been a right wing shill who blathers more than he reasons, but in recent years ODS has tipped him straight into lala land. Kind of like some people here.

JWR's contributors are pretty much the right wing's favorite journalists and pseudo journalists. But anyone who steps out of the echo chamber knows that.

krauthammer used to be a democrat that worked for walter mondale until he saw the light.

I wouldn't say it's light that Mister K is spewing these days. If Obama said breathing was good, Krauthammer would find fifteen reasons to be against it.

lol

i like him and find him kicking ass on Inside Washington on PBS. takes 3 libs to keep up with him & he kicks all their asses, especially that nina totenberg bitch. blows'em out of the water with practically every argument.

BILL CLINTON: - "The really interesting thing was is that a lot of the hard- core conservatives think the Republicans gave too much. Read, Charles Krauthammer's column in the post, he's a brilliant man and he pointed out that they got the divisive tax cuts, but most of them were targeted to middle class working people"

Bill Clinton calls Krauthammer "brilliant"..



Charles Krauthammer has always been a right wing shill who blathers more than he reasons..>>


maybe you are the blathering shill?

love how dumbfuck bert is a democrat when it's convenient....

no my angry friend..

i think bill clinton is a smart guy.


we could use him now.

Are you mancrushing on Clinton now, Bert?

and what part of the Bill Clinton liberal worldview do yo agree with dumbfuck?

^^JWR's contributors are pretty much the right wing's favorite journalists and pseudo journalists. But anyone who steps out of the echo chamber knows that.


Are you telling me Arnold Ahlert is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me Washington Calling is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me David Limbaugh is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me Pat Sajak is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me Culture Shlock is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me Ben Stein is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me ZeitGeist is a pseudo journalist?

Bluetrain, These can't all be pseudo journalists. Some of them even use their real names.

Ending welfare.

Are you telling me Arnold Ahlert is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me Washington Calling is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me David Limbaugh is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me Pat Sajak is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me Culture Shlock is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me Ben Stein is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me ZeitGeist is a pseudo journalist?

Yes.

But then I'm one of those of academic liberals who likes a few facts sprinkled into an argument.

Careful, Pat Sajak is going to do an expose on you!

Its hard to compete against scholars like Al Sharpton and Kieth Olbermann..You must miss Kieth's "Worst Person in the World" segment that he use to do on msnbc..





you poor guys
lost and confused

Show me where I said Al Sharpton or Keith Olbermann are scholars.

You are obviously not a scholar as you can't spell Keith. Oh wait, you probably just made the same typo twice in one sentence.

You posted your list of scholars and I offered my comments on some of them. When I post my list of scholars you can comment on them but please do not tell me who I think is a scholar and also tell em I'm wrong.

Still waiting for you to show me where I called you out on the corner.

and what part of the Bill Clinton liberal worldview do yo agree with dumbfuck?

You posted your list of scholars and I offered my comments on some of them.>>



First off..I did not post any list of scholars. That is a list of writers who are published in the Jewish World Review.



You offered your "comments" on Pat Sajek. out of almost 100 writers you choose Pat Sajak the simple choice to ridicule.

key word..SIMPLE


whats your 2nd choice?

Here are my first 7 choices, as stated above.

Are you telling me Arnold Ahlert is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me Washington Calling is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me David Limbaugh is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me Pat Sajak is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me Culture Shlock is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me Ben Stein is a pseudo journalist?
Are you telling me ZeitGeist is a pseudo journalist?


Now I am sure that Culture Shlock is a fine journalist.

And remember, It's K-E-I-T-H.

By Arnold Ahlert

Nothing makes me happier than liberals who reveal what they truly are: close-minded bullies who believe they and they alone own the franchise on enlightened thinking. Nothing exemplifies their true nature better than their collective reaction to the new immigration law enacted by Arizona. Two stories top the list: In Los Angeles, the City Council voted to boycott Arizona businesses; in Illinois, a Highland Park H.S. girl’s basketball team, scheduled to play in Arizona after winning their first conference championship in 26 years, had their trip cancelled by school officials.

More »


i never heard of this guy before..

"close-minded bullies who believe they and they alone own the franchise on enlightened thinking."


makes sense though..thanks for mentioning him.

What is your problem with Ben Stein?

and the other 80 +

are you looking for perfection?

its a wide range of authors, journalists and radio hosts..


is there any of the 80 plus that meet your high standards?

You can cross Tony Blankley off your list, Berturd.

what is your problem with ZeitGeist?

Best guess for Zeitgeist Writer is Peter Joseph



Joseph has lectured in a number of countries and platforms on the issues of sustainability and society. A notable event was Portugal's TEDx event in 2010. [5] He also is active with Monthly "Town-hall" lecture events in Los Angeles[6] and global ZDAY events annually.[7]

Media attention

Joseph was the subject of a New York Times article[8] shortly after the 2009 Zeitgeist Day as well as numerous interviews by radio hosts and independent media journalists.[9] In mid-2009 the website Life Without Keys posted a review of Joseph's lecture "Where Are We Now?" calling Joseph "a naturally able rhetorician" and describing the lecture event as "a real success, with quite a few over-eager audience members staying up to an hour afterwards to question Peter and talk to each other." [10] In early 2010, a free downloadable online interview was made about Joseph by amateur documentary maker Charles Robinson in which Joseph discusses his life experiences.[11]

On March 26, 2011 he was featured live on Russia Today regarding the Economic Crisis.[12]

On July 26, 2011 he faced a long string of questions at Salvador, Brazil's international cinema festival, Cine Futuro, where he showed his movie Zeitgeist: Moving Forward and participated in debate on contemporary political filmmaking.[13]

Well, yes, but what about the lack of American black protesters? Good Lord, where is the racial diversity/inclusion/proportional representation?


geez Berturd, you article was quickly proven to be nonsense. Your author was proven to be factually challenged.

you article was quickly proven to be nonsense.>>

i missed that..
3 pictures debunks that fact..

interesting how the Tea Party is racist but the occupy crowd gets a pass..

quickly proven >>>

ha

it was a feeble ill thought out attempt by chancellor
and then he ran away

Then, as the pathology deepens, the projection distorts further. Now The Other is actually the cause of The Patient’s unhappiness because The Patient’s ego refuses to accept the truth that The Patient himself is the cause of his own unhappiness. Blame cannot be taken! The Patient becomes The Victim. The Other is demonized — literally transformed into a demon, an evil entity. The Other is called names. The Other is dehumanized. The Patient now self-righteously, and in the name of all that is good and just, actively seeks to destroy The Other. To punish It. To take away what It has by force. Because by destroying The Other, The Patient believes the source of their suffering will be removed.

I give you The Liberal.


Cheer up

3 pictures debunks that fact..

You can't even count correctly. You are so factually challenged and ignorant.

^^What is your problem with Ben Stein?

^^its a wide range of authors, journalists and radio hosts..


Ben Stein is a comedian who lost his sense of humor. He was also a mediocre game show host. On the same list as Pat Sajak. So I guess what you meant to say was "its a wide range of authors, journalists and radio hosts and game show hosts".

You are beyond ignorant,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Stein

I wouldn't expect much honesty from A Nixon speech writer or Limbaugh's little brother.

I am old enough to remember some of Nixon's speeches. They seemed like they were written by someone with an underdeveloped sense of humor.

I said Ben Stein was a comedian.
I never said he was a good comedian.

Say goodbye to another of Bert's Scholars.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Tony Blankley, a conservative author and commentator who served as press secretary to Newt Gingrich during the 1990s, when Republicans took control of Congress, has died. He was 63.

Blankley, who had been suffering from stomach cancer, died Saturday night at Sibley Memorial Hospital in Washington, his wife, Lynda Davis, said Sunday.

In his long career as a political operative and pundit, his most visible role was as a spokesman for and adviser to Gingrich from 1990 to 1997. Gingrich became House Speaker when Republicans took control of the U.S. House of Representatives following the 1994 midterm elections.

Earlier, Blankley spent six years in the Reagan administration in a variety of positions, including speechwriter and senior policy analyst.

More at: http://news.yahoo.com/conservative-commentator-ton y-blankley-dies-63-212841497.html

This thread is pretty F-in funny. Nice try Bert!

Then, as the pathology deepens, the projection distorts further. Now The Other is actually the cause of The Patient’s unhappiness because The >>>Patient’s ego refuses to accept the truth that The Patient himself is the cause of his own unhappiness. Blame cannot be taken! The Patient becomes The Victim. The Other is demonized — literally transformed into a demon, an evil entity. The Other is called names. The Other is dehumanized. The Patient now self-righteously, and in the name of all that is good and just, actively seeks to destroy The Other. To punish It. To take away what It has by force. Because by destroying The Other, The Patient believes the source of their suffering will be removed.

Plagiarized from Laurence Meyers.

Funny--Meyers is asserting that liberals are unhappy people. Most of the conservatives on this board are the biggest whiny malcontents on the zone (which is really saying something).

strange..at one point idiots like bert were claiming the democrats and obama were behind the occupy thing and it was a fake movement set up to help obama..

now they make up nonsense about there being no black people involved with the occupy movement...

...

..

Bert, your cropped picture does not contain a black guy. It only has the single anti Jew at the rally.

chancellor

have you reviewed the list I supplied..
the names of the authors in need of debunking.

gregg doesn't like Ben Stein and Pat Sajak..

what about you?

Bert, have you learned to count yet? If so you would be able to see that your author was telling you a lie.

have you learned to count yet? >>

okay..i admit i am wrong..

there its not 3 black folk

must be at least 5 or 6..


lots of anti semitism though..

some movement you embrace

Bert, you found one guy with an anti Jew poster. Count them Bert. One.

Here is a great youtube clip on the man in Bert's picture. In this you can see the Occupy protesters holding signs next to him which say "asshole" (with an arrow pointing at Bert's guy) and another saying "hate not wanted here". You can also hear the chanting of "nazi go home".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvs_3j6wQSo

Enjoy!

Hey

There is a black guy in that video..14 second in - right side of screen..

that makes 7 black folk so far!


A Washington Post opinion piece cites a survey that found "African Americans, who are 12.6 percent of the U.S. population, make up only 1.6 percent of Occupy Wall Street." And blacks are 25 percent of New York City's population. Occupy Wall Street was a home game for them. By contrast, 6 percent of tea party supporters, according to an April 2010 Gallup poll, are black. That's almost four times the number of blacks who make up Occupy Wall Street.

Again you have trouble with math, Bert. Go back and look at the pictures again and count. You and the author that wrote the article are liars and frauds.
Bert, your mother should have swallowed.

Nothing more to say about your guy with the sign?

You were proven wrong again so you are changing the subject.

Nothing more to say about your guy with the sign? >>

you mean the 1 picture..

there are lots more..


You were proven wrong again so you are changing the subject.>>


you are complete fool
an utter fool also.


nothing is proved
and nothing has been disproved..

don't be delusional

Pat Sajak once said-

"a delusional fool is a bad combo"

>>>Pat Sajak once said-

"a delusional fool is a bad combo"<<<


Did you ask for his autograph?

^^^Nothing more to say about your guy with the sign? >>

you mean the 1 picture..

there are lots more..


They why do you keep posting the same one?

There are lots more videos showing the Occupy protesters disagreement with his sentiments.


^^nothing is proved
and nothing has been disproved..

"nothing is real, and nothing to get hung about"

"Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see."

The Other is called names.

you are complete fool
an utter fool also.



Oh the irony!

Well, you are the one calling me names so I guess you are 'The Other'.

Think about the people you know who have low self-esteem. We’ll call that person The Patient. The Patient does not see value in himself. He does not consider himself worthy of advancement, of self-transcendence, or self-actualization. Instead, The Patient believes he is a bad person, undeserving of success, love, wealth, or happiness. He comes to believe, therefore, that any effort he exerts on his own behalf is doomed to fail because he is such a bad person and does not deserve any success.

But there is this tiny little voice — the ego — that just won’t stand for this self-flagellation. So the ego projects The Patient’s self-hate onto The Other as a defense mechanism. They project the self-hate onto the person who is happy, wealthy, successful, and loved. Now, it is The Other who becomes the object of hate. “Why should he have everything? What has he done to deserve all this? I’m not the bad person, he is.” As a friend’s Facebook quote said just today, “Haters don’t really hate you, they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.”
Then, as the pathology deepens, the projection distorts further. Now The Other is actually the cause of The Patient’s unhappiness because The Patient’s ego refuses to accept the truth that The Patient himself is the cause of his own unhappiness. Blame cannot be taken! The Patient becomes The Victim. The Other is demonized — literally transformed into a demon, an evil entity. The Other is called names. The Other is dehumanized. The Patient now self-righteously, and in the name of all that is good and just, actively seeks to destroy The Other. To punish It. To take away what It has by force. Because by destroying The Other, The Patient believes the source of their suffering will be removed.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you The Bert.

With thanks to Laurence Meyer.

>>nothing is proved
and nothing has been disproved..

That's very Zen.

>>>you are complete fool
an utter fool also.


Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010):

But I am saying to you, that everyone who will be angry against his brother without cause is condemned before the judge, and everyone who will say to his brother, 'I spit on you', is condemned before the assembly, and whoever will say 'You fool.' is condemned to the Gehenna of fire.

peace

for something to be zen, does it have to be equally unzen?

Everything is everything and everything is everything else as well. To be zen is also to be unzen which is also zen.

But that is just my opinion/not-opinion

>>for something to be zen, does it have to be equally unzen?

Of course...but not necessarily.

i'm just trying to be a good citiZEN!

>>> and whoever will say 'You fool.' is condemned to the Gehenna of fire.


guess that explains why me uncle told me i was going to hell for calling him a fool when i was a wee little lad. even pulled the bible verse to read it to me as "proof".

Daddy did too. And pulled a belt to reinforce it.


After all, "Jesus is love"!


I must have been really loved.