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Bad time to be a republican.NO stategy,NO vision,only care about the wealthy...bwahhahahahha

OBAMA !!!!!!!!!!

Poverty rate rises in America



NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Amid a still struggling economy, more people in America fell below the poverty line last year, according to new census data released Tuesday.

The nation's poverty rate rose to 15.1% in 2010, its highest level since 1993. In 2009, 14.3% of people in America were living in poverty.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/12/news/economy/government_safety_net/index.htm




Record number of Americans get government help


NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- One in six Americans is receiving help from the government, just as fiscal austerity threatens to reduce some of that aid.

Soaring unemployment during The Great Recession has driven tens of millions of people to the dole. Enrollment in Medicaid and food stamp programs are at record highs, while unemployment insurance rolls remain at elevated levels. Many people depend on more than one program.



Food Stamp Usage Continues Climbing To Highest Level Ever

The number of people using food stamps hit an all-time high in May 2011. According to the USDA, 45,753,078 Americans and 21,581,234 households use Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), more commonly known as food stamps.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/03/food-stamp-usage-highest_n_917038.html


US Black unemployment at record high levels


Indeed, the percentage of African-American men with a job has dropped to its lowest level since records began in 1972, according to the government's monthly jobs report

The black unemployment rate was historic lows during the Bush presidency and has tripled since Obama too over.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/black-unemployment-highest-since-1984/



The black unemployment rate was historic lows during the Bush presidency and has tripled since Obama too over.



YEAH OBAMA




4 more years

^ Bert,you couldn't have a posted a more perfect reason why we should RAISE TAXES ON THE 1 %..thanks

There are more poor people..

So the 10 percent who Pay 70 percent of taxes should pay more?


What a stupid argument.

Bliar, you are either really stupid or just playing stupid. Asking the people without the money to pay more is stupid.

C'mon guys- everyone knows that Boehner, Cantor, andMcConnell are responsible for the increase in jobs and improving markets.

Bwahahaha!!!

You cannot tell me half of Americans are poor.

47 percent paying zero federal income tax is an outrage quite frankly.


We could get by on a lot less tax revenue if the
Federal govt wasn't such a wasteful bloated mess of shit.

But libs love their wasteful bloated broke govt of shit.


Probably should send this into attack watch. .

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/business/economy /14leonhardt.html

>>So the 10 percent who Pay 70 percent of taxes should pay more?

Yeah, why not? They own 82% of the wealth.

Nice pie chart breaking it down.

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth. html

We aren't taxing wealth.

We are taxing income.


Good luck entering people's houses and taxing their gold, guns, furniture and jewelry.


You are chock full of stupidity.

The recent release of the Census report on an upsurge of the number of Americans in poverty will almost surely be used to justify a spike in funding for federal anti-poverty programs. Yet after decades of increased spending on failed government anti-poverty programs, why should we expect a different result with the next funding increase?

Since 2008, food stamp rolls have risen by nearly 50 percent to more than 40 million, and the number of welfare recipients rose to 4.4 million, an 18 percent increase. In fact, government expenditure for anti-poverty programs is now at an all-time high, as a recent USA Today article reports.

The fact that a vast increase in anti-poverty funding is not associated with even a minimal decline in the ranks of the impoverished gives some indication that the programs aren’t accomplishing their mission.

Since the mid-1960s, millions of Americans (often multiple generations of families) have languished on the rolls of one or more of 70 entitlement programs that entail no reciprocity or hope of upward mobility. In fact, many of the government’s needs-based programs have posed roadblocks to the two major routes to financial independence: employment and marriage.

This is good taxation.

Red-light cameras boost coffers, rile drivers
Kevin Fagan
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California has the most expensive red-light camera tickets in the world - the fine is so steep that one camera in Oakland generates more than $3 million a year - and a Fremont man is launching a protest group to do something about that.

If Roger Jones has his way, that freezing dread that knifes through a driver the moment he sees the overhead flash of a traffic camera will become a thing of the past.

But he's facing quite an uphill fight against officials hungry for the cash the cameras sweep in and police who are convinced they make the roads safer.

Anyone in California snapped violating a red light pays a fine of $480, and according to the traffic-watch site TheNewspaper.com, no other jurisdiction anywhere has a tab that high. The second-highest fine in the United States is $250, and it is usually more like $100.

The Legislature passed two bills in the past two years that would have reduced the fine or limited the cameras' use, but both were vetoed. When he killed the most recent measure, Gov. Jerry Brown said the matter should be left to local jurisdictions.

The state Department of Finance has estimated that red-light cameras bring in more than $80 million annually to the state and $50 million to cities and counties - and that, Jones and his supporters say, is the real reason they continue to snap away at motorists.

Not all $480 from each ticket goes to the cities or counties that authorize the cameras - more than half goes to the state or to the companies that run the devices. And not all tickets result in convictions.

But the haul is still out of proportion to the overall set of offenses, critics say. And so even though the fine for running a red light is the same whether a camera or a live police officer generates it, the cameras draw the fire because they can issue far more tickets than a single cop sitting at an intersection.

'Gotcha'

"Is there a limit to how much 'gotcha government' we have to put up with?" asked Jones, 62, a retired distribution manager who began crusading against red-light cameras after he got a ticket from one in 2009. "Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should."

His newly formed organization, the Red Light Camera Protest Group, picketed at Mowry Avenue and Fremont Boulevard in Fremont on Saturday, waving signs to approving honks from several motorists. It was their first protest, and the two dozen who participated plan more in the coming months - all calling for the elimination of red-light cameras and a reduction in the fine.

"I think we'd all be better off without them," Jones said. "There are better ways to address the problem."

Longer yellows

His foremost suggestion is to increase yellow-light durations, giving people more time to stop safely - and to avoid tickets.

After he pushed the city of Fremont in 2010 to tack 0.7 of a second onto the yellow light at Mission Boulevard and Mojave Drive, pushing it to five seconds, the city noted a 62 percent drop in red-light camera tickets there.

Jones and other camera foes also insist that rolling a red light on a right turn, also known as making a "Hollywood stop," is not as dangerous as other violations - even though the vast majority of tickets given by most red-light cameras are for that violation.

One recent study in South San Francisco, cited in the Legislature during a 2010 debate over the issue, found that 98 percent of its tickets at one red-light camera were for rolling right turns.

Few oppose the usefulness of any device, including cameras, for reducing the number of people who blow straight through red lights. But that's not the main issue, camera foes say.

A study last year by Safer Streets L.A., a community group opposed to traffic cameras, found that of the 56,000 annual accidents in Los Angeles, fewer than 100 are caused by rolling right turns.

Cops disagree

Law enforcement officers have a sharply different view of the topic.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2 012/02/05/MNGJ1N2VRO.DTL

so big brother surveillance is a better option than taxing the rich?

>>We aren't taxing wealth.
We are taxing income.

Okay. The top ten percent makes 71% of the income but only pays 68% of the total income taxes (you can actually find some minimally different numbers, but I found that one at several anti-tax websites).

bad time to be a republican, and bad time to be a democrat, to think either of these parties actually do something for the true middle class is funny. Clinton,Bush, now this one and my family is squeezed more each year. everything goes up, nothing comes down and all the "car saleman" do is tell you they are fighting for you. If people hate the rich so much, do something powerful to them, dont entrust the other rich in washington to make it fair, they are fucking us too.

>This is good taxation.
Red-light cameras boost coffers, rile drivers

You're brilliant. Another money maker for local governments at the expense of the people. It sure induces governments to trim the fat.

This type of traffic surveillance is nonsense. So much for the nanny-state bullshit you've been spouting around these parts since the black guy's been president.

Sounds to me like you don't care about the government putting its hands in our pockets as long as the "others" appear to be footing the bill.

At least you're consistent. Consistently wrong.

Bump for Bert

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Just thought Bert and Blair might need a reminder of the thread title. They can't argue with the facts so they cut and paste articles about poverty and red light cameras.

ADD at its finest.